NAS and Finding and Organizing

ros485

28-06-2009 20:21:47

Hi there,
I just recently invested in QNAP nas that includes a download manager, - i have on my local machine mapped a few drives pointing back to the NAS device, one for the TVshows and one for the downloads. When i use the finding and organizing section within TVrename, and the move the files, then this process takes a long time. Is there any way to tell the application to copy/move within the NAS device and not to use the network?

I hope this makes sense...

Have a great Sunday everyone...

ScoopD

28-06-2009 23:48:50

I have a similar setup and a friend of mine had almost exactly the same issue that you are seeing.

The solution is - Don't map a drive. At least don't use those mapped drives in this application. The application understands network locations just fine.

So, instead of mapping a drive to Nas/Volume/folder, instead actually enter \\NASDEVICE\VOLUME\Folder. I actually use IP addresses instead of the NAS name, but that should not be required. When you setup your QNAP you would have been asked to give it a name and it will have a default volume, such as "volume_1"

Give it a try and report back if you are still having problems.

ros485

29-06-2009 06:40:23

Thank you, i will give this a try once i figure out why my NAS cannot been seen when navigating trough Network. Its properly because my laptop is in my work domain, and the NAS in my home setup. It could have been cool if you within TVrename could have just writen the correct path, instead of having to navigate to it...
thanks

ScoopD

29-06-2009 07:52:59

It could have been cool if you within TVrename could have just writen the correct path, instead of having to navigate to it...
You kind of can in a round about way. In the MyShows info you can definitely type in the path.
My quick solution is to create a network place. Go to "My Network Places" (I'm talking about XP; don't know the equivalent Vista) and Add a network place. This is just like mapping a drive except it doesn't assign a drive letter. Through this GUI/Wizard you can browse or just type or a combination of the two. Just make sure you don't make a typo as it can take an age for the computer to come back and tell you.

Once you have a network place set up, in TVRename you browse to My Network Places and you don't have to go through the whole tree as your added places will be just under that level.

Sorry if that is badly explained, but it's early in the morning.

sstteevvee

29-06-2009 20:12:35

ScoopD is right.. Windows can tell the NAS to move the file itself, if they are on same drive on the NAS. Unfortunately, if you map it to different drive letters, TVRename think they're the same device, so it does it the hard way.

If you drag and drop a file in Windows explorer between the two mapped drives, does it do it quickly, or also copy it back and forward over the network?

Also.. I haven't tested or used TVRename with UNC paths (like \\server\share\folder), so let me know if anything weird happens.

ScoopD

29-06-2009 23:14:24

I haven't tested or used TVRename with UNC paths (like \\server\share\folder), so let me know if anything weird happens.

I've been using it this way since I started using TVRename a few months back and have not had any issues.

ros485

30-06-2009 03:53:52

Thank you very much, - i have now changed my approach, and i will see how it goes the next time i have to rename and move the files..

ros485

03-07-2009 03:13:31

Hi,
Unfortunate this does not go very well for me.. here is what i did.
Inside Vista
1.I Used add network location to add the different folders - they now show up in the format
"\\192.168.1.11\Qtvshows\"
"\\192.168.1.11\Qdownload" -
"\\192.168.1.11\Qtvshows\xxx" etc...

2.i can now see then new folders created below my computer and Network.
3. Inside TVrename i add the corresponding folders inside Finding and organizing and Folder Monitor, they show up in the following format "\\192.168.1.11\Qtvshows\xxx" -
what i did notice is that inside TVrename the application cannot see the folders below network, but i can see them below my computer. Does this make a difference?.

I tried within explorer to drag and drop within the two mapped drives then this is also slow.

Any ideas what could be wrong?

sstteevvee

03-07-2009 14:34:23

TVRename won't be able to do any better than explorer. If explorer decides to do it the slow way, I can't improve on it.

You'll have to either live with it being slow, reorganise your files so you can map the a single network share to a drive letter, and have everything under that one "drive". If you move "QDownload" to be subfolder of "Qtvshows", then you could map "Qtvshows" to a single drive letter, then everything should go quickly.

TVRename will definitely need it to be on a mapped drive, otherwise it will do it the slow way: it won't see "\\192.168.1.11\qtvshows\downloads" and "\\192.168.1.11\qtvshows\xxx" as the same "drive". I'll put this on my list of bugs to fix.

ros485

03-07-2009 16:19:03

Thanks a lot for your quick reply, - i will try reorganizing, and wait for the fix at some point. until then i will just use winscp for moving the files.

pzam

21-07-2009 05:30:36

on my lan I set up vista with extra accounts.
I have an account I use locally.

then the account I use to share files across the lan in read only mode. ( guest type account)

each nas and device that access the lan uses the guest password to get to the files only the local vista machine can modify them.

I then set up mapped drives to each of the devices on the lan.

I have windows search set to
what to search:
Always search filename and contents.
how to search:
check all items.....
when searching non index locations
include system directories
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warning if you search directorys with long names sometimes it will skip them or not show the files in them. if you have a folder with long name that has more folders with long names in it the files in those folders may not show on the search. if you do a cut and past they will be lost. So before deleting them make sure you got everything.

kibje

20-10-2009 09:00:17

In case anyway wants to know the solution to this problem (which happens to be Qnap specific).

Create a share on the QNAP to a root level HIGHER then your other shares.

I made a password-protected share called root, which is mapped to /

Map this share as a network drive. Voila, when *moving* files the files will be moved locally within the share.

Be aware that this will not work when copying files: It's not possible to tell windows to have a remote machine copy locally when copying, this is just not how file-browsing is built. (Nor how it has been built in any other OS for that matter.)